As I said before, it is a very convenient position, and the main thing, this is one of the easiest way of fighting with Elena’s Models’ competitors. As the result we men suffer, men who are ready to spend their money to find a real relationship or even a future wife. We entrust our destinies to dirty manipulators who strive to earn as much money as possible using us.
We are manupilated by big business machines like Elena’s Models.
I would say that such methods were popular in the past century, but now in our modern world there are a lot of ways to develop one’s business. Why not to put an ad on TV or in Internet?
Unfortunately, Elena’s Models chose another strategy, the chose dirty advertisement. They try to «kill» their competitors tactlessly accusing them of fraud, thinking out in a skillful way more and more dirty stories in social networks. Seeing all this I can only say that Elena’s Models doesn’t deserve any good attitude. Moreover, they will never be able to enhance their image behaving like this.
What did everything begin from? Less than a year before (in the end of July 2014) a screaming article appeared on a blog devoted to search of wives abroad. The articles’ title was «Dumping Elena»
Unfortunately this article was deleted. The author wrote about change of Elena’s Model’s owners. How do you think, is it an accident that the agency Elena’s Models began the large-scale fight with its competitors in all possible social networks in the same year? The changes took place not only inside the company, the website was changed as well, it was greatly updated. At the same time, Elena’s Models behavour towards competitor websites became much more violent and inconsiderate, as you can see.
And here is the comment from Paul written after one of the articles on this blog: http://www.westernwomensuck.com/2014/06/13/300000/:
So it is, Elena’s Models really belongs to the company Great Media Limited, it is mentioned on their website:
On another blog you can find a discussion about change of Elena’s Models owners
By the way, it seems that this discussion was created for the same goals of Elena’s Models, the tactics and style of narrative are very similar to Bruner’s tactics. The autor refers to the same artice, as did I. And he quotes a little fragment of this article.
As you can see, the author of the blog tries to justify the «benevolent intentions» of Elena’s Models who changed its registration data. He explaines it in the following way:
It is evident that big changes took place in Elena’s Models company. It is also evident that this «honest» dating agency tries to earn money using unfair game. And the fact remains evident that the agency Elena’s Models is ready to biuld its internet empire by all means (even bad and dirty).
However, in any case I wish you to keep your head to the sky and use services of only honest Ukrainian and Russian dating agencies. There are a lot of them in internet, believe me, you should look for them and you will certainly find them!
Also I want to mention that Dave Bruner created on Facebook a group «The Stupid American» that is very similar to his group on vk.com. The aim is the same: to damage men’s attitude towards good Russian or Ukrainian dating sites, lure all the customers from there and gather all them on Elena’s Models.
Now it is impossible to determine who is the administator of this page. However earlier Bruner administrated this page.
And now this post looks like this:
What is the difference? And what’s the big deal? – can you ask.
When you try to follow the link «David Bruner» or «current page» you see that the page is not availale:
It means that now one cannot define who is the author or administator of this page. This all was done in order to hide Dave’s belonging to the content placed there. Or the profile of this character has been already closed by Facebook administration. Agree, nobody deletes or hides profiles in social networks without any reason.
I want to mention an interesting fact: Bruner wrote that he hadn’t used Elena’s Models any more starting from February 2015. However in the same month he takes part in a range of comments and asks questions that contradict to this fact. It seems that this doesn’t match with other Dave’s posts. It seems that he just bungles.
I can say with certainty that now I have not less questions than you can have. The more facts come out, the less you believe in sincere intentions of David Bruner and the more you connect this legend man with Elena’s Models. After all, they «struggle» for honesty. The only question is: do they use correct ways?
Tell me please, what for does a person need to collect cock-and-bull stories about dating agencies, study their work tactics, spread unconfirmed information about these agencies in the internet and the main thing — waste so much efforts and time, if he is fully satisfied with Elena’s Models’ services? Is it really behaviour of a usual client who is satified with the agency that he uses?
However Dave Bruner (Elena’s Models) doesn’t stay with it. Now social resouces sitejabber come into play
Of course he mentiones «bad» agencies that did Elena’s Models a LOT OF HARM
own page on G Plus, social network twitter (https://twitter.com/stupidbrunner https://plus.google.com/+DavidBrunnerstupidamerican/posts), youtube:
Among “bad” dating sites mentioned on Trustpilot are in David Bruner’s (Elena’s Models) opinion the same sites against which he cries out in his group: Veronikalove, Russiandesire, Find Bride, Hotrussianbrides, Anastasiadate
He continually lays an emphasis on «The more letters a woman can get sent to her, the more money she gets». And what about «The more partners has Elena’s Models, the more the agency earns? The more negative things are spread about competitors, the more clients they get? The more uncontrolled women are on the site, the more money the clients will spend?»
Over here Bruner (Elena’s Models) duplicates reviews about various dating agencies, the same that he mentiones in his group on vk.com. Naturally, the first in Dave’s good sites rating is Elena’s Models.
So what does come out? Elena’s Models uses the partner programme directly and is looking to cooperate with affiliate websites, but at the same time it criticizes and abuses similar networks.
It seems to me that all this connected with all the websites promoted by Dave (Elena’s Models).
A propo the «Rearward area». Besides that David Bruner (Elena’s Models) spreads a kind of propaganda «good cop / bad cop» with using his group on vk.com, he also spreads rumour about his competitors, enemies and just bad (in Elena’s Models opinion) dating sites on reputation resources and so called trust resources. For example, here Dave Bruner (Elena’s Models) mentions Trustpilot and asks everybody in public to leave comments there.
I can say that all other sites that Dave Bruner (Elena’s Models) mentiones are united in a «cooperation network» with Elena’s Models, because they also have their own partner networks or want to develop their business using big partners.
For example, the owner of the site bridesandlovers.com is Stefan Hendrick (https://about.me/stefan.hendrick) – CEO and founder of RedSquareCupid.com. «RedSquareCupid was founded in 2009 and has built up a strong returning membership base. Initially starting with Bridesandlovers.com the company now operate four premium niche dating sites (ukrainiandating.co, asian2date.com, filipino2date.com). Our members come from North and South America, Europe, Asia Pacific and the middle East.»
However, at this point Bruner (Elena’s Models) criticizes partnership in dating business. He asks in anger: «Why are there so many Russian/Ukrainian Scam Dating sites?? Why is the Romance Scam Industry worth billions to Russia and Ukraine??? Well, let me show you some insight into my methods.»
Generally speaking, Elena’s Models is also coming from Queensland, Australia. All other registration data doesn’t match with data of its partner sites, of course. Looking at this you can have the impression that these are only indirect evidences, and there are no facts here. However, you will not be able to find facts! Those who have the nerve to accuse the others of fraud and scams, definitely know how to cover up their tracks and prepare back areas.
And if you take a closer look, you will find 3 differences in the registration data of these sites — name, ZIP-code and fax number :)))
I would like to comment on a last website to which Dave Bruner (Elena’s Models) refers and gives the direct link only to this agency. This site owes the same registration dates that the much talked-of in the internetanastasiadatefraud.com has.
Why David Bruner so “love” Anastasia Date
By the way, this scandal is mentioned on one of the most popular and trustworthy internet sites – Wikipedia
As you might have guessed, Elena’s Models was involved in this scandal:
«Anastasia International filed a suit against EM Online Ltd. dba Elena’s Models, in US Federal Court in New York. The complaint alleged that Elena’s Models, a direct competitor of Anastasia International, set up two websites, anastasiadatefraud.com and ruadventures.com, that featured fabricated negative testimonials and illegally used AnastasiaDate trademarks. The case was dismissed.»
And it is not surprisingly that Dave Bruner (Elena’s Models) seized the moment and mentioned this website, yes, their own-produced website anastasiadatefraud.com where AnastasiaDate is accused of fraud.
What harm did this agency to you that you are ready to spend so much effort to create your own groups in social networks and multiply «pseudo-reviews» on trust resources for your dirty cooked-up stories?
We move further and look, it was not difficult for Bruner to promote its affiliates, it is clearly seen here:
Among groups to which Brunner refers in his profile I found some Elena’s Models’ affiliates that also belong to Nikolai Grebnev. Do you think that it is just a coincidence?
So, whom Dave (Elena’s Models) praises in his group on vk.com:
Do you want to say that this is an opinion of an altruist who is so delighted by Elena’s Models? Each alive person is quite lazy. Even if he / she is not content, he / she will confine himself to two or three bitter notes. But David has just an unprecedented longstanding aggravation of selective jaundice. If a person is satisfied with everything, he will describe his admiration once and than live his own life and enjoy his life. Such a person can leave only one or two thankful comments, but those who write long stories… such kind of behavior smells of dirty trick.
And here are praises of Elena’s Models again, and of course the praise is accompanied with complaints about other agencies. No competitor is passed by!
David Brunner’s rule is: «Elena’s Models’ is the realest dating site on the net», DEFINITELY! It is for those who look for superlative, isn’t it?
Why do you want to misinform people? Bruner (Elena’s Models) do you really think that a text that you wrote well in advance and placed on facebook in third person will be taken seriously? It is surprisingly how much time you would need to examine 1000 women’s profiles and contact hundreds of men (if it is possible at all) to make a «stupid American» conclusion that this site is just a scam, REALLY!
And now we get to the point: then Dave Brunner (Elena’s Models) praises Elena’s Models and doesn’t grudge sweet words for this praise :)))
Aw shucks! It is hard to fault, everything was described just perfectly. I wonder how much does such a work cost. Perhaps you could write books on psychology…
Note 1. It is very easy to spread this kind of propaganda, especially if the workflows of other agencies are not similar to Elena’s Models’ methods. It is so easy,you just have to slander these agencies (there is a lot of them in the internet), you just think out detailed stories and discussions on a topic «Don’t pay for letters because this is scam». Simply said, it is very convenient for Elena’s models to shelter themselves behind some other business, especially if they have something to hide or propagandize.
A couple of welcoming remarks on general topics,
then they praise somebody in order to deflect attention away from the main thing.
An example? Here is the first neutral post about the agency lovelygirls.rus-date.com. This agency is not very popular and cannot be a competitor for Elena’s Models. So, why should one write about it? The answer is quite simple: this small website belongs to Nikolai Grebnev who doesn’t like to display his activity. This man is the founder and owner of DM Planet LLP, this company rules many other dating sites (for example LoveMage, RuDiva, KievGirls etc) and an affiliate network OwnDating/Affiliater. “So why not to promote my affiliate websites?” decided Brunner (a fictive character created by Elena’s Models).
And finally one can abuse everyone and all.
That’s their dirty strategy.
As you can see, Dave Bruner considers paying for letters or chat to be scams. However he is convinced: if a website has a membership fee, there are NO scammers on this site, DEFINITELY! 🙂
By the way, exactly Elena’s Models has a membership fee. An interesting detail: this fee is based on how many women you wish to talk to. So, what is the difference between paying for letters and the fee based on how many girls you communicate with?..
read more on http://david-brunner-scam-fake-elenas-models.com/
The author of a social group on https://vk.com/club77348506. It appeared in September 2014 and has being rapidly updated with reviews on Ukrainian and Russian marriage agencies. Especially since “dating scam” is a really painful issue for a lot of men from all over the world.
Most of these reviews are negative, and some of them seem to be recommendations or advertisements. A big positive emphasis is put on the dating agency “Elena’s Models”.
In the author’s opinion it is a good, real and the most honest agency.
Hey, Elena’s Models, is it OK to build your pseudo-reputation libeling similar marriage agencies?
The main enemies of Elena’s Models are all the agencies that don’t belong to its partners. But we found one special agency, it is Anastasia Date. They seem to have a personal “vendetta” and any dirty tricks work good in this case.
Why does Elena’s Models fights hard with competitors?
This is an easy game of how to get a lot of money in a very short time.
Where are the sites promoted by Elena’s Models coming from?
They all are registered by one person and they are Elena’s Models’ affiliates, such as